On Jul 6, 3:15 pm, "Don Evans" <gtrdonev...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Yeah, or like some but not all of it. I think part of the problem is
> substituting "it sucks" for "I don't like it". To me, "getting it" has to
> do with the work or works resonating with you ... not with being part of a
> Zappa fan club. When you "get" the joke ... it just means you think it's
> funny .. nothing more. It promotes a response. Not everyone has the same
> sense of humor, right? So if I say I "get" Zappa, that doesn't mean I think
> I'm superior, it just means his stuff does it for me ... not sure why there
> is so much heat about this.
There isn't any heat on you, brother. In fact I find your attitude
refreshing. But don't you notice that for people like Rick N. Backer
and Nil, that it really isn't about the music - or even constructing
an argument based on analysis (when the friction heats up as it
sometimes does when people don't know each other) - but instead it's
about hurting me, someone who simply doesn't hold their viewpoint?
That's where the heat is coming from, brother.
If anything, I find your attitude refreshing.
> But, as I said earlier, like or dislike doesn't necessarily reflect quality
> of art either. At the absolute most rudimentary level, the fact I don't
> like chocolate ice cream doesn't mean it's not good chocolate ice cream.
> And the fact that I don't "get" the shades of difference between good and
> crap ice cream doesn't mean the differences aren't there.
Exactly. How then do we judge if it is good ice cream or bad ice
cream?
> I'm pretty bad at philosophy arguments, so I'll probably bail here, but I
> just wanted to get my thoughts out.
What if applying the lables was the very mechanism that was causing us
to lose the ability to make an absolute judgement in the first place?
No one is saying a label cannot be applied to the answer, for the sake
of communication. I'm just saying - what if - trying to compare the
ice cream to being tasting good or tasting bad is precisely the thing
which causes us to incorrectly judge it's taste? Do you know how to
fix someone who has that problem? I do.
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