Renli <oliver.richman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 5:14 am, "Don Evans" <gtrdonev...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Likely, these same people feel the need to wear their
>>> clothing labels on the outside. Zappa was exactly the type of artist
>>> who would attract these clowns. They get more from saying "I get
>>> Zappa and I don't like that mainstream crap", then they actually do
>>> from listening to his music, or appreciating his work.
>>
>> And you know this ... how? I really haven't seen a lot of posts
>> saying that "I get Zappa *and* I don't like that mainstream crap".
>> Rather, I've seen guys saying they get some aspect or other about
>> Zappa and his music.
>
> Most of the people.. ahem.. "defending" zappa in lieu of his own
> words, don't present logical arguments or respond to the points made.
How can one respond logically to someone who starts off a discussion
with a straw-man argument? You take a statement that Zappa made and
twist its meaning so extremely that attempts at reasoned discussion are
futile.
> In extreme cases (like Nil for instance), they actually start lying
> about what was said and about the poster "putting down" their favorite
> artist.
Watch out. You're using that "lying" thing a bit liberally, considering
your own efforts to twist a man's words.
> So how does he know? Well, because it's easy to tell what kind of
> person "likes" frank zappa, thats why. If you can see it. It's
> difficult to see such a thing from the "inside", if you catch my
> drift. But it's obvious to "outsiders".
Right. Because you have the truth and the rest of us are too blind to
see it.
